Thursday, December 29, 2005

Natural Gas Wars

Sean Guillory from Sean’s Russia Blog comments on current Russian-Ukrainian natural gas crisis. I like Sean’s blog and although I almost always disagree with his conclusions I find his analysis well-thought, deep and logical. But this time it seems to me that Sean is misinformed.

Sean writes,
But some will argue that the political independence Yushchenko’s government seeks from its eastern “big bother” means that it must also accept an end to economic dependence and pay natural gas prices closer to “market value.”

Ukraine was the first to demand from Russia at the start of 2005 to stop barter exchange (natural gas for transportation) and use market prices. Russia eagerly accepted the idea but it turned out very soon that Ukraine means: market prices for natural gas transportation but the price of the gas itself should be as in 2004 50 USD per 1000 cubic m.

Ukraine has continued to enjoy the Russian gas subsidies at a rate of $50 per 1,000 cubic meters, but a few weeks ago Gazprom upped the price to $160 to begin at the new year.

Sean! Not a few weeks ago but in March 2005! A few weeks ago Ukraine decided that it’s time to bring ‘glasnost’ to negotiations. They decided to play the political card hoping to find support in the US and in Europe. It made an impression that the price was upped just a month ago. That’s wrong.
I don’t understand why Sean used inverted commas with the word market value? Does it mean “so-called market value” or “would-be market value”? Actually an average European market price for natural gas is 432.57 USD per 1000 cubic m.

When Ukraine resoundly rejected this as blackmail, Gazprom raised the price again to $230 in retaliation.

Again wrong. Dmitriy Medvedev stated it very clearly that the price became 230 USD when Gazprom discovered that Ukraine started selling natural gas to Rumania for 260 USD. Ukraine buys gas from Russia for 50 USD and then sells it to Rumania for 260 USD. That’s what we call market economy!

If one thinks that this is simply Russia adjusting to the laws of supply and demand and is not punishment for Yushchenko’s independence, keep in mind that Belarus, which is soundly in Moscow’s political pocket, will continue to get gas for $46 per 1,000 cubic meters.

Sean forgot to mention economic reasons for this price. In exchange for discount Belorus handed over to Gazprom control over Belorussian pipelines. Sean should remember that the war between Belorus and Gazprom was also very intense and that Gazprom also turned off the gas tap for Belorus. Only that fact was ignored by Western commentariat as it distorts the image of Putin who always supports Belorussian dictator because for some irrational reasons Putin loves tyrants.

I think it’s just common sense – Gazprom doesn’t need Ukraine. Gazprom needs Ukrainian pipelines in order to lower political risks and to prevent Ukrainian government from stealing gas with impunity. The moment Gazprom gets Ukrainian pipelines; Ukraine gets the same price for natural gas as Belorus.

All in all, I think there's one simple way out from this crisis. As Ukraine became pro-Western and pro-NATO why the US and EU don't compensate Ukraine the price disparity. It's only 3,6 billion USD. What a good way to demonstrate support for Ukrainian democracy.

78 comments:

Slavito said...

Konstantin,

Thanks for voicing what many of us noticed but were too lazy to start yelling about.

Just like in the old days, I want to say "I haven't read what that Sean guy wrote, but I think..." - yeah, I think he's just repeating the analysis of the mainstream (Western) press. Those guys are just LOOKING for ways to make Russia's (or Gazprom's - obviously nobody makes a difference any more) behavior sound really bad and bullying while refusing to give hard DATA on the subject. Why? Because they know - anybody with a brain will look at the numbers and say "Wait, but we're paying more! Hell, isn't EVERYBODY paying a lot more??? So, aren't Ukrainians actually being offered a good deal? Can this even be called bullying?"

No, no. This is not to be allowed. Europeans citizens need to think along the simple lines like this: Ukraine -good, democratic, reasonable, Russia- bad, undemocratic, menacing, and unreliable. So, the recipe adopted for press coverage seems to be this: fewer numbers, more adjectives. Color Russia the agressor and Ukraine the victim. The only numbers allowed are those that show the increase from the previous year's price. All good propaganda techniques, but some of us actually read blogs. So, thanks.

Sean Guillory said...

Thanks for the corrections on the Gazprom-Ukraine situation. Am I misinformed? Perhaps. Wouldn't be the first time.

I do take exception that my comments are explicitly anti-Putin (Russia), or that Putin "loves tyrants." He does at least no more than say George Bush. If Gazprom wants to up their prices for gas, that is their perogative. The ones who will be hurt by this aren't the Ukrainian and Russian elite, but the consumers that will have to pay more for their gas.

But my larger point of that post concerns Illarionov and his charges that Russia is "corporatist" and that there is a decline in his ability to express his opinions openly. Russia is hardly unique in this. I don't see any difference between how US corporations handle their business than Russian ones do. The Griffen case involving the possibily the CIA and US oil corporations giving bribes to Kazakh officials certainly shows this. And as far as Putin punishing his own officials for public statements or other states, I can give you a long list of this behavior by the American government. So in my opinion it doesn't matter what state does this stuff--they all exercise power to their advantage and the ultimate losers in all this are the average person who is just going about his or her life. The excereise of power, after all, is the point of global capitalism. Yeah, the system may be in part predicated on the so-called benign forces of suplly and demand, but it is even more based on fierce competition for maximum profit that requires the use of power to win over your opponent.

As I ended my post, and ask again: "can someone explain to me the difference between what Russia is doing to the Ukraine and [the Griffen case]? I guess that in many ways Illarionov’s charges of “corporatism” can be applied elsewhere as well, leaving Russia more in line with the rule, rather than the exception."

That being said, thanks again for the criticism.

Anonymous said...

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uh... my mom worked for an oil-gas company long time in turkmenistan and my step father was high ranked russian official(at least he knew Miller(Gasprom CO or whatever) personaly). So they told me that its a well known fact... uh... that Ukraine was buying gas from Russia and Turkmenistan for cheap and selling it EU four-five times more expensive. Well so now its a main reason of this conflict.

Peter said...

While it is essential that the figures and dates should be correct in formulating any argument, it is also imperative that we don't lose sight of the bigger picture.
Konstantin, wen you say that Gazprom doesn't need Ukraine, but just its pipelines, you are being willfully inaccurate. The Russian establishment, of which Gazprom is a vital agency, has every wish to see Ukraine return to its heel. It is perfectly correct to say that the pricing war is about geopolitics, though I think speaking about neo-imperialism is not very helpful. Sean's premises are wrong, but your conclusions are similarly far off the mark.
That said, I am concerned at the zero-sum game strategy being employed in the mediation process. I agree that if the EU is keen to enable Ukraine's future sustainability it should provide short-term assistance. Ultimately, the gas we are talking about is destined for Europe anyway, a fact that Yekhanurov underlined by threatening to appropriate a portion of the transiting gas as payment for services.

ulrich speck said...

You cannot discuss those matters without taking into account that Gazprom has become a main foreign policy instrument in the hands of Putin. The Kremlin perceives Ukraine and Belarus as its sphere of influence, and uses it's natural ressources as a tool to put pressure on independent governments. Unfortunately, the EU is not prepared to help Kiev to maintain it's independence, so Ukraine is all alone in it's struggle. I agree that the EU must step in to assure Ukraines independence, as it is in Europes interest to have a stable, liberal Ukraine as its neighbour, instead of a Russian satellite state like Belarus.

W. Shedd said...

"It's only 3,6 billion USD. What a good way to demonstrate support for Ukrainian democracy."

Great idea. I am sure that the US would love to put 3.6 billion dollars into Putin's pocket (ultimately this is where the money lands). After all, the Russian government has been very helpful with Iran lately. They should be rewarded.

I think you are twisting facts to support a point of view that not even Russians believe. I am sitting at a table of Russians in Rostov V. right now, and the all recognize that Russia is blackmailing Ukraine, seeking to bring that government to heel. In fact, they were rather gleeful that Russia is pushing around Ukraine. I think it is a typical Russian attitude, as many here are not pleased that Ukrainians would seek to govern themselves. And that is exactly how these Russians see Ukrainian behavior: they are being disrespectful towards Russia and should be punished for this fact.

Throwing out dates and who said what first and when only obscures the larger facts and Gazprom/Russian actions towards Ukraine, when given this golden opportunity.

Resale of gas and oil occurs everywhere in the world. It is nothing new and should not be perceived as such. Neither should it come as a surprise. Petroleum is a commidity (sp?) just like any other. Resale of petroleum products is a big business, not only for Ukraine.

konstantin said...

I don't get it. Russian economy should suffer so that Ukrainian independence would flourish?
Russen muessen sterben damit Deutsche leben?

Anonymous said...

"I don't get it. Russian economy should suffer so that Ukrainian independence would flourish?"

I don't get it either. Russian economy should suffer so that in Belarus (as one example) there was a marionette like Lukashenko presenting himself as a saviour of the nation? That's better, isn't it?

W. Shedd said...

I think Konstantin is misinformed, and not Sean Guillory. None of Konstantin's points reject or refute the assertion that the Russian government is using natural gas as a political tool to punish Ukraine. Every single Russian I spoke to over the last two weeks cheerfully acknowledges this tactic ... AND THEY LOVE IT! It has scored Putin big points among the Russian populace. Even Putin was smiling when he made his New Year's Day announcement.

All these other comments about "oh, should Russian economy suffer to help Ukraine" and such are purest nonsense. If there was a Russian in charge of Ukraine now, there would be no strong-arm politics occuring and Ukraine would continue to get very low-priced gas.

Certainly it is Gazprom's right to charge what price they wish for their natural gas. But it is pure revisionism to say that the timing of this is not a political tactic seeking to bring Ukraine to heel. I met no Russians over the last 2 weeks of holiday that didn't gladly acknowledge this.

Anonymous said...

To everybody who keeps comparing Ukraine to Belarus - please remember that Gazprom HAS REPEATEDLY OFFERED TO CONTINUE SUPPLYING GAS AT LOW RATES provided that Ukraine agrees to the same thing Belarus agreed to - give Gazprom shares in the country's gas transport company. Ukraine REFUSED.

In fact, it seems that Ukraine, not Russia, did everything in its power to provoke this crisis and is getting maximum political mileage from the turmoil. If it seems like Russia is punishing Ukraine - well, that's because Ukrainians (no doubt coached by their American PR consultants) chose to pitch it this way. That's all there's to it! They decided to play victim, and the press bought this crap - hook, line, and sinker.

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yuvakuran said...

Russian Gas policy will create more nuclear and renewable energy projects to florish in the region. That is good. Every issue brings the countermeasures.

Anonymous said...

Kostantin,

Excellent initial post. At least someone is well informed enough about the issue (and isn't just spouting off based on his holiday in Rostov!).

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Once again Rotsheld risks to wake up tied without paints, his children robbed poisoned and they would even be forced to prove that they are his children. Who is that freak? Where is my own father and where is his property and finances? I was treated in a very similair way. I also was robbed, forced to be at line of poorness. One and the same scheme was used. Is my own father so bad man? Or someone owed him very much? May be many people became trustees of my inherited assets, and yet used to think my inheritage theres? Where is my own father? And where are his assets and money? For such a complex operation with my finances they must have had someone's help and support. Who helped them? Who devided and took my money?

I am the daughter of the man,whose face is identical to Joann Paul II. In Italy he is known as Tata Giovanni (Father Giovanni) .He lived in Rome and worked in the USA. I lived with adopting family in Yekaterinburg in the place of killing Royal Romanov family. Why? Who from my own family is a queen? My own grandmother? Or what does it means? Address was Moskowskaya street 9-31. In Moskovskaya street 9-20 lives Hussein family with daughter Aleksandra. My real name is Anna-Kristina-Aleksandra. What does it means? Who fined that information?Who really have aggression against Muslims countries and against Iraq and Hussein? I know that my own grandfather Naum was Muslims friend. And when he invest his money in Russia he took gold as financial guarantee. May be in Iraq and near Hussein my enemies searching that gold? I know that everything my relatives had they left as inheritage to me. I need to find, who has management of it in his hands, and which is the state of property and assets. I don,t know how my identity could be hidden, because I have unique right leg, which was disfigured from birth. This is my unique sign, nobody could be mistaken normally in my identification. Business of my own grandfather was oil and gas, casino and hotels of Las-Vegas. Own father too. During 10 years I was under strong financial pressing. And lived with my younger son for 60 dollars per month. Who became a manager and do that? Since October of 2001 till 2007 all the force of repressing machine was put on us. I have savage fascism in Lithuania in my own flat and in my own life and life of my son. We came out of there on our four. We have total control. Causes - multi billion assets in-heritage from my own relatives. Since 1993 year I was pressed financially at first, I lives with my son and we have 60-100$ for month. And even it is well known that a person is dead without money, my attackers didn’t stop - since 2001 year I had seven savage attacks on me on a territory of Lithuania - was poisoned with HCl, toxicoids,I was systematically trivially beaten, I had a traffic accident - was hit by a car on the pedestrians on green light for me, poisoned with hallucinogens and with my son pushed out to bogs in winter, where we have spent 3 nights. Those attacks started 3 weeks after twin-towers in the USA were ruined. They were ruined in 11.09.2001. I was born in 11.06 - month of twins-Gemini. More, the only citizen of Lithuania died in that crush, who was constantly living and working in the USA in twin-towers Jelena-Helen Gavriushina-Melnichenko - her mother was director of the school my children got education. Director of the school Gavriushina was born 6th of June. I have a friend in my childhood. Vladimir Vladimirovich Gaper. He was born 6th of June. Who is that friend? Everybody knows one Vladimir Vladimirovich, but he wasn’t born at the 6th of June. Putin is a friend of Kerkorian? Who is that my friend born 6th of June? I found that one. In the USA in Las Vegas. Kerkor Kerkorian. After reading his biography I saw that his owned MGM hotel, casino blown 21.11.1980. Interesting, that all those digits are digits of mine and my children’s dates of birth. More, even ID’s are the same. That friend was my own father’s and own grandfather’s manager? Why then the property wasn’t returned to me? Interesting that Bill Clinton had a nickname fly. After exact translating to Russian this mean to fly - as a pilot, a flyer. Manager was a pilot, a flyer. Why Bill Clinton, you ask?If bill - is billion, who clean’t billions then? Do you remember what is Bill Clinton wife’s name? Hillary Clinton. What is hillary clinton? Hi-Larry-Cleaner. Hello, Larisa who got in fly and cleaned… understand, yes? Monica Lewinski came into cabinet in White House at 28 of february 1997. Adopting family’s son Sergey Lopatinskiy was born 28 of February. Who knows what does it mean? In 10 June of 2006 in Diana,s Spencer family house resident of Russian special services Aleksandr Lebedev organized a meeting to memorize death of Raisa Gorbacheva. Michail,s Gorbachev wife died 20 09 1999. But 11.06.2006 I celebrated my 50 anniversary. It means all the strange recollecting organized just before my birthday. Why? How it is connected with the fact that 9 months before Raisa Gorbacheva died, 20.12.1998 died Jevgenij Bondarenko-son of Natalia Bondarenko who became also Lopatinska,ja after getting married with my adopting brother. It is she who is used to get my money without me to agree nor accept. Who helped her? Bush, Primakov visiting Lithuania they organized “accidental” meetings with me and my son. First used his security officers, second by himself. 11.03.2008 Poland visited Hosni Said Mubarak. 14.03.2008 we were proposed to leave Poland. We were getting by auto-stop in Italy. As well as we arrived to Italy, to Italy came Putin, who visited Poland and came to Berlusconi.Some years ago Berlusconi became Prime Minister 11.06.2001.In my birthday. What does it means? They have my money and business? They robbed me? They were so poor that needed my finances and my incomes? We live with son at street wearing some floor clothes. Was my father such a bad person? Is he blackmailed in such a way? Where is he now? Multiple applying to Silvio Berlusconi does nothing. What could be this person whom in my childhood I know as Silvia in Italy - my “mother” with wig and with man,s cigarettes, and which I must find if I need a defense and help? I know that part of finances former soviet agents transferred to someone in England. Queen Elizabeth and her husband visited to Lithuania (16.10.2006-18.10.2006)Jan Paul II became Pope in Rome 16.10.78. What Elizabeth and her husband need from me? After theres visit 21.10.2006 Hubertas Grusnys was killed, he was owner of radio stations and Lithuanian millionaire, whose radio Lietus a week before told about poisoning with toxicoids me and my son in our flat. In Lithuania for my financing and living my own father gave 10% shares of AO LUKOIL company to the oil company AB MAZEIKU NAFTA. For my financing in Lithuania responsible A.Brazauskas, B.Lubys (as everybody know Mr. Lubys is a friend of Mr. Nazarbajev), G.Chapanidze, V.Shkil. Mr. G.Chapanidze is in jail since 1996-1997. I was not financed at all. And didn,t ask nobody to sale or to present my finances or shares to anybody. I know that there are most of assets, which didn’t get in hands of those who robbed me. May be Mr. Alekperov knows what does it mean? In 19.8.1995 in Omsk died someone Ivan (Jan,Giovanni, Ioann) Lickevich. Do you know what does Lickevich means in polish? This is translated as calculate. What and whom calculated Lickevich?Ivan Lickevich was the director of the Omsk oil rafinery. In 3.7.2000 died with his son Gediminas Kesus.They are killed both. Gediminas Kesus was the director of the Mazeiku oil rafinery.When he was killed in Lithuanian newspapers was published information – some documents Gediminas Kesus put into some England bank. What the documents it was? Who started to kill the directors of oil rafineries and started putting the money into his own pockets? My money.In such way Lukoil go for another hands.Rats hands.
Another savage attack against me began 20.10.2002 – 23.10.2002. In 23.10.2002 - 26.10.2002 there was Nord-Ost in Moscow. My son and I had the same diagnosis as victims of Nord-Ost. Who do it? I have personal individual characteristic by which I can be easily identified - my right leg was disfigured while my mother was pregnant, and I was born with unique diagnosis. After many specific medical operations, my leg became passport, which couldn,t be forged. I demand to change my managers and carers.

Dora said...

I am on prosthetic appliances since childhood: this is my own mark since
birth. The last time there were strange things in my life. have been poisoned, many
times bitten in different periods of time, there were traffic accident either.
I have been presecuted by unknown people as if I would be a big enemy of a
big person. But I couldnt even be an enemy: most of my time is with books according
to my phisical disability. This all was in Lithuania, Vilnius. Who could
know, who why and what reason makes such a cruel assault to me, threateaning my
life and health? I have been poisoned by hydrochloric acid, toxines,disfigured
my only healthy leg, I was beaten unmercifully not once,poisoned with halucinogenes
and pushed with my son out to bogs in winter,where we have spent 3 nights.
I know exactly about myself that since I have learned to read, I never put
my nose to anythingm except books, which are published millions copies. Obviously,
I am convinient object for slander and liers. For slander, non-limit, prejudice
- answer. I have a right to know who why and what for organiized all these
cruel things. Own up! Answer. Pay for. How do You think, what could be the reason
of such a cruelness: a) I am the only in Lithuania who is not an agent of special
(intelligence) service, as well as casual (stupid) b) I am a heiress of a
billionth capital, but somebody forgot to inform me about it c) some other
reasons I would like to find those, who think that honor and justice are
in prior. Who is not afraid to defend against scums.

The most important thing to me is to be safe against non-armed agression
in Lithuania, and justice in all forms to be.
I am looking for those, who - 1. would find the causes of the savage attacks in Lithuania against me and would protect either. 2. would recollect debts calculated for savage attacks and damages made to me. This would be made from all the dealers and managers of the attacks. 3. would find out and calculate an amount of my heritage. 4. would return all the stolen assets to me, plus, soap foam (dividend). 5. A person who would do mentioned, would become the manager of
my assets. 6. From every next my earned million would gain half for my defence
and my security. Me personally and my interests, as an addition to said.

Please, do
not drive just to look at us.But if you wish to stare very much at us then
let us do it for pay. My cost for one staring at me - is EUR1000 from each
person.Better say what is the problem, where is my own father, his friends
and my money.Does not it time to return them to me?

Where is my money. One of the most important - which sums and whom for they
were set by my father with the task of my finansing. For my finansing obligation was on the Lubys,Skil,Brazauskas,Chapanidze. How did they care about me? Threw away from work? Paid me 100S per
month? Is it the way they should care about myself? Now the main question how
much of the main assets were transferred, and where? If I do not mistake,
the mans who I am talking about really had care financially about me. They gave
me credit with the rate if 24% per year with the real estate guarantee. Now
they are is blocking process of returning the credit. Good commercial deal,
doesnt it-give me credit using my personal assets with the huge rates and
my real estate guarantees. Tell me, how should such mans be named? Who should
know about this financial fraud - please, consult me.
When I had been poisoned with hallucinogenes I didnt know where to go, in
my diary I drew dresses. I explained myself that when I earn money I put
them on myself. How I was surprised when I saw polish Playboy in train, with
my dresses. But not in draw, but in result by Chloe and Mexx. Please, who
knows that person, who dared to steal my drawings and sell to the famous
agencies of business fashion. Who is responcible for that, how do you think?


Variuos methods of poisoning us with hallucinogenes are used as in lithuania,in
poland.They are coming and putting hallucinogenes on carpets.But you can
still be sytrongly poisoned even if you are drinking simple cola which you
are taking by yourself in a refridge in various shop.This allows to think
about hypnose,most likely night one.

Everything was starting rather simply. Huge country broken, people lost job, me either.There were hysteria ALIENS GO HOME. With precision of clock engine I was thrown out from any job I worked.Exactly by the scheme you are alien,and that was logical.It was rather normally that wihtout relatives, connections, without being of an elite nationality, can't do anything.
First real attack on me: savage disfunction of my only health leg - accident on the road.When those "accidents" became usual during short period of time,some man (don't remember who) said me "this is an order", "you have big enemies".I rolled eyes widely and couldn't understand where enemies from - I am a person who do not like and can't do anything except reading books.But someone didn't learned alphabet, and strongly hated to read. I was savagely poisoned by hydrochloric acid,chased on mogs,started to be poisoned by hallucinogenes.I run over security firms, with the help asks,when I was told there not to find out anything but to move out. Where should a person get money for moving out,when a person got about 60$ and regularry was thrown out from job? I tried to go to banks,but black information was quickly created,with magician's trick ways for bank credit were closed for me.I became to look for a private creditor. Nobody gave without 24% year rate.I agreed for that.Than by the different reasons private persons became to change their's mind and reject either.At last a man appeared who agreed to gave credit.I said him honestly - no money,butbu
First Datebut still want to try myself as a designer.I proposed business project.I was giving my flat and my work,he was giving his money.First of all I moved out from to cure myself after multiple poisoning and attacks.I stood myself up and returned to make project come true.But no way.It became obvious that there is no possibility to rent a room for me in Vilnius (nor it was,or rejected me,or threw out during short period of time).There were no where to live,no where to put our things.90% of things from my 3-room flat I gave to people as a present.Nobody let us with son live in except in hotels.Reconstruction of the flat was near military actions.Construction workers asked money from me,took prepaid sum,didn't finish work or just went away.It was multiple sindrome of a long lasting nightmare.When one plumber threw in my flat expencive expensive units, with voice of ventriloquist moving hands stated that I have black aura,even stupid like me understood that someone is masterly mocking. Constantly, workers were leaving flat, I looked for others. At last reconstruction finished, neighboors stopped argueing,and I got little miracle.I didn't beleive my eyes-my idea came true. My results were valued at first by my security firm.Fellows said it was great.I became to sell it.It was viewed more than 1000 times per month on the internet site owned by creditor.Everybody looked,noone bought.I was told that the flat was too expensive.The flat had price 15% lower than other.People became to propose price of an old abandoned barn.Another realtor from another lithuanian town arrived to vilnius to see my flat.He stated the price that he could sell the flat. The mentioned price was 20% higher than even my own optimistic.But realtor wanished. After that market of real estate was fallen in Lithuania.Some clever constructed buildings gyps-cardboard and became to sell it by normal price.All that time was chase on me,poisoning with toxines and hallucinogenes,arrests,beating,criminal cases.When we moved out to Poland with difficulties, creditor stated that he wishes to arrest my flat and would organize auction.I remind you that there are not only his finances frozen in that flat,but my work and my assets-my flat is my investition.Doing like creditor says,he just robs his partner.Who has right to leave me without my investments,project,design and ideas,my business incomes at last.What should be told and lied to organize the same repressions in another country, make me live on the street with hunger? I did everything talanted and more: I made my word and obligations come true.I think its time to say thruth: what is problem in? Is in my own father and grandfather who looked as Jan Paul II? They looked like him,or he looked like my own grandfather and father? After all attacks I may be have a right to know the truth.
Recollect debts for me from my enemies and return stolen assets. I publish account number. IBAN: PL69 1440 1228 0000 0000 0403 0672, S.W.I.F.T. (BIC): NDEAPLP2

Dora said...

To Mr. Bronislovas Lubys
I am the daughter of the man, who had a symbol in Vatican and whose
face is identical to Joann Paul II.Tata Giovanni. During 10 years I was under strong
financial pressing in Vilnius. And lived with my younger son for 60
dollars per month. Psychological pressure, pressure to leave a job,
leaving without incomes and finances at all. Since October of 2001 till
2007 all the force of repressing machine was put on us: poisoning,
accidents, multiple threatening to life and health, prosecution
institutions.I have savage fascism in Lithuania in my own flat and in my
own life and life of my son. I was born in 11.06.1956. I am a
journalist. My real name is Anna - Kristina- Alexandra. I am an
impaired person since birth, and walk with the help of prosthetic
appliances. My place of living was Vilnius, Lithuania- my own father hid
me there.I don't know why. But I know that Mazheikiu Nafta had 10%
shares of Lukoil, may be you know why? Or may be you know why you friend
Brazauskas,father of twins, was the head of some company in Gedimino
11? I think you gave you word for one person,may be you don't forgot
about it? After queen Elizabeth and his husband's visit to Lithuania
(16.10.2006-18.10.2006) 21.10.2006 Hubertas Grusnys was killed, whose
radio Lietus a week before told about poisoning with toxicoids me and my
son in our flat.What happened with my own flat in Vilnius? Who must pay
for that? Who must pay for all that savages and fascists things? And
where is my own father's money? And where is his oil business that
he left in Lithuania? I am the only child of my own father and the only
inhariter.I did not present nor business nor money for nobody, I did not
asking that peoples to be the managers.Who answer for all of that?
Here is my bank account number. Please, help them to return all my money.I need my money Mr.Lubys.
IBAN: PL69 1440 1228 0000 0000 0403 0672, SWIFT BIC NDEAPLP2
This is for those who robbed me and helping to robbing me.
Thank you .

Best regards
Anna-Natalia

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